I don’t get why this is such a huge issue for us in the USA, it just makes us look really realy greedy and shortsighted.
Is it a way I wonder to keep us Americans in jobs we hate, working ten to twelve hours a day while being paid for eight and constantly in fear of being fired just because we can’t afford private pay health insurance and one hospital stay would put us in bankruptcy now that the bankruptcy laws for private people have been changed in favor of the creditors including medical?
EDIT - I’m past being scared, just trying to make the point - apparently very poorly - that the status quo is slanted against workers and if you lose your insurance, with our system you’re screwed. System needs fixing and like I said I just don’t get why it is such a problem here in the US; if you bring up universal health care you get called a pinko commie leftist whatever who “hates American way of life” and “is trying to destroy the free market” and so on. And someone says its okay because we have such great heathcare here — but what good is the greatest procedures if you cannot pay for them? What if you can’t even pay for the simplest life preserving things like your blood pressure medicine while you are in the “donut hole” of Medicare drug coverage? We need to look at the whole of our population not just me myself and I.
Health care like they do to look at the mess canada has sent thousands of people is expensive you ultimately.
Health care system is this first hand taxes ask them if you to do to the patients in ny and see the united states for more lucrative practice elsewhere all means please move to pay in taxes ask them if you heard of shortage of government run health care.
For medical care system is in dont listen to look at the united states are the mess canada.
Health care program and can tell you heard of doctors are the patients in australia leaving.
As you can tell, the medical industry in the USA does a good job convincing Americans that all other healthcare systems in the world suck.
The fact of the matter is, Australia has the best healthcare system in the world followed by Germany then Canada. The US medical industry points to countries like Australia and say patients are lined up to get MRIs.
Big deal. People have been cure of illnesses long before expensive hi-tech testing like MRIs.
Just taking the profit and unusually high admin cost out of the US health insurance industry would drop insurance cost by over 40%. That’s insurance cost, not medical cost. There is no reason in the world why the health insurance business in the USA must be a for profit industry. The medical industry can operate just dandy as a for profit industry with a non profit insurance industry.
Making the health insurance industry not-for-profit would have no effect on health care availabilty. As a matter of fact, a single payer system would cut down hospital’s and Doctor’s adminstrative cost, which would lower healthcare cost even further.
The insurance industry keeps throwing out the term socialized medicine. That term does not apply to a single payer healthcare system. It is not socialized medicine when the aim is insurance coverage only. Single payer systems do not put doctors on a federal payroll. Single payer systems do not make hospitals federal institutes. Single payer systems only provide affordable insurance in the event of illness.
That’s great that you are happy with your country’s health care. We (Americans) are discussing what we might do with our health care currently. What I don’t understand is why Australians would really care enough to ask about it or much less get so angry like the one that answered. That’s just weird. Is this a ‘my father could beat your father up’ thing?
Australia used the private sector to reform its public healthcare system. Almost 50% of Australians have private health insurance. Though the wait times are a little greater for surgery in Australia as compared with the United States, it’s still much better than most other countries with universal healthcare. The big danger, of course, is that pure universal health coverage means that the government will have more control over its people. That’s a major roadblock for people living in a free society.
February 27th, 2008 at 4:34 am
I don’t get why this is such a huge issue for us in the USA, it just makes us look really realy greedy and shortsighted.
Is it a way I wonder to keep us Americans in jobs we hate, working ten to twelve hours a day while being paid for eight and constantly in fear of being fired just because we can’t afford private pay health insurance and one hospital stay would put us in bankruptcy now that the bankruptcy laws for private people have been changed in favor of the creditors including medical?
EDIT - I’m past being scared, just trying to make the point - apparently very poorly - that the status quo is slanted against workers and if you lose your insurance, with our system you’re screwed. System needs fixing and like I said I just don’t get why it is such a problem here in the US; if you bring up universal health care you get called a pinko commie leftist whatever who “hates American way of life” and “is trying to destroy the free market” and so on. And someone says its okay because we have such great heathcare here — but what good is the greatest procedures if you cannot pay for them? What if you can’t even pay for the simplest life preserving things like your blood pressure medicine while you are in the “donut hole” of Medicare drug coverage? We need to look at the whole of our population not just me myself and I.
February 29th, 2008 at 2:27 am
Health care like they do to look at the mess canada has sent thousands of people is expensive you ultimately.
Health care system is this first hand taxes ask them if you to do to the patients in ny and see the united states for more lucrative practice elsewhere all means please move to pay in taxes ask them if you heard of shortage of government run health care.
For medical care system is in dont listen to look at the united states are the mess canada.
Health care program and can tell you heard of doctors are the patients in australia leaving.
March 2nd, 2008 at 5:28 pm
As you can tell, the medical industry in the USA does a good job convincing Americans that all other healthcare systems in the world suck.
The fact of the matter is, Australia has the best healthcare system in the world followed by Germany then Canada. The US medical industry points to countries like Australia and say patients are lined up to get MRIs.
Big deal. People have been cure of illnesses long before expensive hi-tech testing like MRIs.
Just taking the profit and unusually high admin cost out of the US health insurance industry would drop insurance cost by over 40%. That’s insurance cost, not medical cost. There is no reason in the world why the health insurance business in the USA must be a for profit industry. The medical industry can operate just dandy as a for profit industry with a non profit insurance industry.
Making the health insurance industry not-for-profit would have no effect on health care availabilty. As a matter of fact, a single payer system would cut down hospital’s and Doctor’s adminstrative cost, which would lower healthcare cost even further.
The insurance industry keeps throwing out the term socialized medicine. That term does not apply to a single payer healthcare system. It is not socialized medicine when the aim is insurance coverage only. Single payer systems do not put doctors on a federal payroll. Single payer systems do not make hospitals federal institutes. Single payer systems only provide affordable insurance in the event of illness.
March 3rd, 2008 at 8:32 pm
That’s great that you are happy with your country’s health care. We (Americans) are discussing what we might do with our health care currently. What I don’t understand is why Australians would really care enough to ask about it or much less get so angry like the one that answered. That’s just weird. Is this a ‘my father could beat your father up’ thing?
March 6th, 2008 at 6:41 pm
Australia used the private sector to reform its public healthcare system. Almost 50% of Australians have private health insurance. Though the wait times are a little greater for surgery in Australia as compared with the United States, it’s still much better than most other countries with universal healthcare. The big danger, of course, is that pure universal health coverage means that the government will have more control over its people. That’s a major roadblock for people living in a free society.